SS Help me!

[||§§||Eraser]

Ok guys, I am going to purchase a semi auto and want to know all you guys opinions, since I am sure there are a LOT of gun owners on these forums.

What am I looking for as far as primary needs?

I am looking for a concealed weapon, ive decided on .40 calibur to have enough stopping power but also allow me decent control and magazine capacity.

These are the weapons that I narrowed my search down too. Please speak up if any of you have experience with these weapons and let me know your personal opinions. ie. concealment, how comfortable it is to you (i am a large guy with large hands), price is not an option as I would rather just have a quality weapon.

SIG P-229
Kimber Carry Pro
HK USP Compact
Glock 19 (I doubt I would get this one, only because I do not like the fact of no safety other than just the trigger)

[||§§||Hand_O_Death]

Sig is better for concealment, but I always vote for the H&K USP, that is a fun gun and will not jam when you need it. (Also has good rails on it)

I do suggest going to a big gun store and hold each one, once you get a feel, is the best way to tell which gun is best for you.

[||§§||zezura]

go for the USP

[||§§|| Sven The Slayer]

I've got a Sig P6/225 German surplus. It's only 9 millimeter but you can pick them up really cheap if you know where to look ($250-$300 VS upwards of $700-$800+). It has a single stack 8 round magazine so it's pretty slim and probably what I will carry once I get my license. Sigs also shoot great, but other then my P6 I don't have any experience with them but overall they are well made.

A friend of mine has a USP Compact 45. It shoots really nice but its not a very small gun. I think the only difference between the Compact and Full version is barrel length. So probably not a good concealer.

I've heard allot of what is call the "glock grenade". Glocks were really made to be 9mm. When they made them for larger rounds they were never reinforced so some people who would custom reload over pressure ammo blew them up.

As for Kimbers well I've got nothing...

As Hand O Death said, Go to a gun shop and actually get a feel for them. There are even some out there with ranges that might let you "try before you buy"

[||§§||Dr.H]

SIG P-229
Kimber Carry Pro
HK USP Compact
Glock 19 (I doubt I would get this one, only because I do not like the fact of no safety other than just the trigger)

You can pretty much take those guns and put them in order of cost and quality. As the cost goes down so does the build quality.

Kimber is big money but top notch quality. I shot a Kimber custom .40 last weekend and it's $1200 but really great.

Sig costs a bit less but makes some really nice guns. I have a Sig Mosquito and it's a cool little gun. I have heard that they changed how their metal frames are made and their not as solid as they were a few years ago.

HK may cost a bit less than the sig but they make some really nice guns and do a lot of military work. HK and Sig are usually hand in hand competitors they make very similar quality guns in the same price ranges.

Glock costs the least but has a big following with lots of add ons and aftermarket parts. I'm not a huge Glock fan myself.

Of course if you could go full size there would be a lot of other guns to choose from.
Remember to get the largest size frame you can comfortable carry.
.40 is a really good decision.
A double stack mag is also nice.
Stay away from the dinky Kel-Tec's. Kahr makes some decent big bang in a small size guns but their still not my cup of tea.

There is also companies like Taurus they make good guns usually in the HK price range I believe.

If Price was no option I would either get the Kimber or go with one of the custom 1911 companies like NightHawk or Les Baer.

You really have to go to a big store and try some out to see how the feel of their grip angle and weight is. See if they will let you dry fire or have those dry fire spring loaded blanks so you can test the trigger pull because each of those companies will feel different.

[evildick]

Buy yourself a nice Colt .45 1911. that shit will stop anyone and it looks badass. seriously. i have one back in the states at my grandparents house but could bring it overseas.

it looks just like this:

[||§§||Zombie]

check out this site

http://www.remtek.com/arms/

[||§§|| Sven The Slayer]

http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/225/225.htm

There's what I have... shes so pretty.

[||§§||Zombie]

http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/225/225.htm

There's what I have... shes so pretty.

That is a very nice gun...

I really like this one alot

http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/229/229.htm

or this baby

http://www.remtek.com/arms/sig/model/220s/index.htm

[||§§||Dr.H]

That site is a bit outdated for the Sigs. The only Sig I have is this one http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=30&productid=184

The P220 is bad ass though and I wanted one a while back.

[||§§|| Sven The Slayer]

Mine is actually designated p6. It is the exact same gun as the p225 just older. They were police service pistols until recently so there is a surplus of them and you can pick them up cheap and in good condition. Worst thing about them is some holster wear. Oh and it says "made in W. Germany" on the side

[||§§||Dr.H]

Lol last time I was in the E.R. the big light thing hanging from the ceiling said it was made it West Germany. All I could think is that they haven't updated their medical lights in some time.

[||§§||SharpY]

i like .50 desert eagles :)

[||§§||Dr.H]

Having used, broke down and cleaned the .44 Desert Eagle I can say I'm not to impressed with the platform.
It's a HEAVY handgun which is needed to handle the .50 and .44 in semi-auto. It actually has duel side by side recoil springs to handle the rounds and the magazines spring fits into a slot in the front of the magazine which gives uneven feed pressure, add that to a much more sloppy fit into the mag housing and you'll occasionally get rounds that do not feed properly into the ramp causing a jam...
These are common problems with the Desert Eagles. I'm not sure how well the Baby Eagles work but as to the original Eagles(originally made in Israel then the U.S. and now back to Israel again..) at a average $1700 price tag there are TONS of more reliable better functioning handguns out there.

In my opinion the Desert Eagle is more of a novelty gun than anything else. I will admit it handles the recoil of the .44 and .50 like a champ compared to the kick you get with the revolvers but with rounds that heavy a revolver is a much more solid platform.

[||§§||Postal]

Personally, I own 6 fire arms. 2 are hand guns. One is a Beretta 21-A Bobcat 22lr (fun little plinker). The other is a Smith and Wesson 686 .357 with a 6" barrel. I can highly recommend getting a good Smith and Wesson .357. I know revolvers have smaller mag capacity and the .357 is a tad smaller than the 40 S&W but the 686 is quite a tack driver. I shot roughly a 1" group at around 15 or 20 yards (shot 18 rounds). A snub nose would be a little less accurate but they're perfect for conceal carry. Not to mention that you can always practice with 38 Specials and save the 357's for when you carry. They're not cheap (mine ran around $700) but they're worth every penny. You can also get them in a 7 shot model.

Check out gunbroker.com to see what price range you can expect to pay for a given gun. It wont be 100% accurate as it's an auction site but I usually check there before I go to the local gun shop so I know what to expect.