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||§§||kafrosGR
08-18-2008, 04:03 PM
well my mobo is especially for overclocking. and atm i have 2 cores at 2.5ghz each and i can overclock up to 4.5ghz each core. a cheap and good water cool will cost me around 60 euro (88 usd). the problem with water cooling is the liquid you require each week that its about 15 euro (22 usd)each week as i heared. anyone have anything to suggest about it?

||§§||Dr.H
08-18-2008, 04:42 PM
Most boards have the ability for overclocking, especially gaming boards. When you say you have 2 cores you mean a duel core processor like the Intel Duo? Don't worry about each core since their on the single chip, just think of it as a 2.5ghz duo. I'd be surprised if you could overclock up from 2.5 to 4.5 and be stable even with an expensive water system. You might not be able to get over the mid 3's before loosing stability.

Basic decent water cooling kit your talking about a price of around $150 - $300. Coolant does cost around $20 a bottle and that should be enough to fill a whole system. I'm not sure about it but I can't think you would be evaporating off a bottle of coolant a week.. Some of the liquid guys like Reign for Buzzard will have to answer that.

||§§||kafrosGR
08-18-2008, 05:06 PM
mm im looking forward on super damn overclocking my system just for few time to make some videos for fun :P

||§§||Dr.H
08-18-2008, 07:24 PM
Lol ;) I wish you the best of luck. Just remember to use the Bios and not a program. Remember to get coretemp and everest programs. There are also tons of good Duo Overclocking guides online.

||§§||kafrosGR
08-18-2008, 07:52 PM
Lol ;) I wish you the best of luck. Just remember to use the Bios and not a program. Remember to get coretemp and everest programs. There are also tons of good Duo Overclocking guides online.

ah i wonder if anyone could give me some helping hand since most here are skilled over this.. why not program? there are programs like easy tune 6 that comes with the mobo :P

||§§||Dr.H
08-18-2008, 08:40 PM
If you want to do any stable overclocking at higher ratings you will have to use the computers Bios and manually boost the setting. No MB tuning programs have been proven to work well.

||§§||Zombie
08-18-2008, 08:54 PM
If you want to do any stable overclocking at higher ratings you will have to use the computers Bios and manually boost the setting. No MB tuning programs have been proven to work well.

Isn't that the truth :thumbsup2:

||§§||DVtriple6
08-18-2008, 09:54 PM
If you want to do any stable overclocking at higher ratings you will have to use the computers Bios and manually boost the setting. No MB tuning programs have been proven to work well.

Seconded.

To use programs you have to be in Windows. Which is a bad thing on it's own. When you reach your OC limit for the voltage you have you will freeze or BSOD.. The worst thing that can happen is actually that the program automatically loads settings at startup. Not necessarily a bad thing on it's own but if your computer freezes or crashes while you are overclocking you may have to reinstall the entire OS.

Also those programs are never that stable. Besides the BIOS isn't that hard if you wanna learn how to overclock safely. :thumbsup2:

||§§||Buzzard
08-19-2008, 05:02 AM
I’ve Been Running water cooler for some time .I have made about 6 systems in full water .I love it. my case is a special water system from thermaltake .it’s nice and a lot less noise from air fans .don’t get me wrong you got fans but they don’t run in a high mode, my system has a mode if the Cpu or chip set gets over hot it kick the fans on a notch or two .as for water change you should do it every 6 -12 months .some water additves are beater thin ethers .if you jest starting in the water I love Koolance & thermaltake . after you find a system that will work for you needs the water blocks are key and the size of tubing I run 5/8 I find that it’s got the size I can split off to 2ed & 3ed and more water blocks .CPU. GPU North& south .Ran and even hdd as long as you have a large radiator and a good reservoir


http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/


This is the case I have and love it!
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1309&ID=1412

I have updated a few part to it to be more thin stock .i removed the pump & reservoir to a high flow Koolance Smart system I still have the base case an now the koolance 5 ½ bay

http://www.koolance.com/default.php

This it what I have
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=564

Over clocking the Cpu is something that’s good if you don’t mind tweaking I have did a lot of systems and each is something new from the mother board bios to finding the right algorithm .the new mobo are nice they have back up bios the old if you didn’t set it right you have to reset all to get it back to a stat that will run .now you over clock and it don’t run you hit reset on the back or on the mobo it’s self and your back to running and set to tweak again .

||§§||kafrosGR
08-19-2008, 12:27 PM
how much is the weekly/monthly cost for liquids? guess its only for U.S... >.< anyway.. im looking forward spending much money only for fun By using Liquid Nitrogen. that gonna be awsome.

||§§||Dr.H
08-19-2008, 02:20 PM
Wait Liquid Nitrogen? That's a joke right? As far as I know there are no commercial Nitrogen systems that are not custom and a cost a fortune to make.. plus it's not very cost effective.

If you can find a place that will sell it to you it's not safe at all −196 °C/−321 °F cold. That's "oops I spilled it and frost bite my fingers off" temps.

If you want crazy cold the Phase cooler will do that but cost a grand or more and they don't last very long.

||§§||kafrosGR
08-19-2008, 03:08 PM
well i know how dangerous this is. and yeah i found that it is really used. my father used to work with stuff like this so it wont be such dangerous for him. it gonna be really fun ^.^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcdzuUhtB-Q

||§§||Dr.H
08-19-2008, 07:19 PM
Good luck ;). Lol try not to get the cpu to cold so it stops working :p

||§§||kafrosGR
08-19-2008, 08:37 PM
Good luck ;). Lol try not to get the cpu to cold so it stops working :p

well i had been thinking HOW THE HELL A PIECE OF METAL CAN RESIST ON -192 AND ITS NOT GETTING INTO A PIECE OF ICE

||§§||Hand_O_Death
08-19-2008, 11:12 PM
hope you dont bump the case and shatter everything LOL

||§§||Buzzard
08-20-2008, 12:29 AM
after you got all your parts it cheap to keep up as for weekly and monthly i only change my water every 6-12 mounths and thats it .i have fire & ice water in now and seem to do ok. zalmams water is ok but breakes down some what fast. you may be asking whats break down in water ya starts to make algey and that gums up the pump and black and a real bich to clean

||§§||kafrosGR
08-20-2008, 07:10 AM
and how much the water for 6 months?

||§§||Buzzard
08-21-2008, 03:08 AM
http://www.crazypc.com/


http://www.crazypc.com/products/pc-ice-93551.html

||§§||kafrosGR
08-21-2008, 06:04 AM
i was looking at same bottles like this. but people said it was for a week o.O

||§§||Buzzard
08-21-2008, 11:17 PM
nope works great .i have a small window that i can see the water .an i have hade my water in for about 8 mounths and it jest starting to turn .so i'm keeping a eye on it .i have UV lights in my system and that make algey grow like nuts and i dont want that i had to work on one and it a pain.nice thing about fire & ice is that you can add a die to the water to change to the tube a cool look.i'm run green now but i think 'll go blue next time. but you can do all types my tubes are green that how come i did mine in green

||§§||Hand_O_Death
08-21-2008, 11:31 PM
So you not only have a UV lamp that helps the algae grow, you made it green so it is even harder to see? LOL nice. From what I am told you should have fluorescents, or LEDs that are crap for plants.

||§§||Buzzard
08-22-2008, 04:19 AM
the uv makes the tubed glow fluorescents, are heat makers led's are ok but cost more plus the light isnot the best ,ok for like a flash light but not for lighting a case

||§§||Dr.H
08-22-2008, 08:13 AM
Have you tried cold cathode tubes? That's what I have in my system.